Re: [abc] POPL submission / Soot and abc release

Hi Oege,

We will work on fixing that up. I had pointed out some
instances in our editing of the paper, and we will
clean it up further before it gets published.

I don't think it is actually a case of trying to claim
credit for something, but rather a writing style which
uses "we" a lot. The key thing is to get rid of the
"we"s that aren't.

Eric and Pat, can you work on the for the tech report
version please.

Thanks, Laurie

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Oege de Moor wrote:
>
> Thanks, Eric.
>
> I have to say once again I find it really irritating that you write
> things like "we describe tracematches, *our* mechanism for runtime
> monitoring". The design of tracematches is not due to any of the authors
> of this paper. Of course we're very grateful for Laurie's input on
> improving the original OOPSLA paper presentation, but you ought to point
> out that it is primarily work of Pavel and Julian (and Chris Allan as
> well!). Instead you dismiss their contribution in three sentences in
> the introduction. That is deeply misleading.
>
> I'll refrain from pointing out further instances of this
> misappropriation of scientific results that are not yours, but the paper
> is littered with it. It's really not good scientific practice to try and
> take credit for stuff you did not do, and I am sorry to have to ask once
> again that you stop doing that.
>
> As you know, there continues to be a tense feeling about the fact that
> while we started the tm research here at Oxford, part of that juicy
> story was hijacked by the Sable group, so you should try to exercise a
> little sensitivity on this subject.
>
> Sorry to be blunt, but apparently more subtle ways of saying the same
> thing in the past haven't gotten through.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> -Oege
>
> On Tue, 17 Jul 2007, Eric Bodden wrote:
>
>> Hi all.
>>
>> As mentioned earlier, Patrick, Laurie and I wrote a POPL submission on
>> flow-sensitive optimizations for tracematches. This basically replaces
>> "stage 3" of the ECOOP paper with something that actually works. We
>> got pretty good speedups and found out other interesting stuff so it
>> might be worth a look.
>>
>> You can download it here:
>> http://www.sable.mcgill.ca/~ebodde/pubs/blh07flowsensitive-draft.pdf
>>
>> A TR version will follow shortly.
>>
>> Further, I would like to prepare a joint Soot and abc release very
>> soon. The Soot release because of this bug we fixed with the points-to
>> analysis and the abc release so that at least the ECOOP analysis is
>> out there when I give the talk. (All stuff relevant to running the
>> ECOOP analysis is already in the abc HEAD. The POPL analysis I
>> currently keep in our SVN at McGill.)
>>
>> However, the analysis for POPL was still impeded in some cases by an
>> apparent bug in Manu's context-sensitive points-to analysis. (It fails
>> to produce context information in some even smaller test cases.) I
>> will see if Manu and I can get this fixed by next week or so, so that
>> then we can hopefully do a release.
>>
>> Eric
>>
>> --
>> Eric Bodden
>> Sable Research Group
>> McGill University, Montréal, Canada
>>
>>
Received on Wed Jul 18 2007 - 13:17:46 BST